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@scathach “engineer” or “architect” have always been extremely loaded metaphors, with the exception of maybe people who write machine code / firmware

still I’d rather use an app where someone actually designed and worked on than some machine generated bs

and the long term implication of slop on top of slop where no one knows how it works is gonna be a major problem when it’s no longer economically viable to burn through centuries of oil in a week

@ug @scathach >still I’d rather use an app where someone actually designed and worked on
experienced developers are doing this with AI and the results seem to be good, so you'll use AI generated stuff anyway. (plus its like on KDE, Linux, etc already)

@mischievoustomato @ug @scathach

>The results seem to be good

Does nobody keep up with infosec at all or do we just parrot bullshit in favor of what's the "cool" and acceptable opinion?

Honestly, the only silver lining here is that the level of Dunning-Kruger slop shilling devs continue to display and promote, will inevitably accelerate what is to come.

@subnetter @ug @scathach i dont really think about infosec guys much if at all most days. Again, if with vibecoded stuff they produced stuff with those problems, they would've handcrafted the same problems themselves.

@subnetter @ug @scathach also, i dont 'parrot' stuff because its hype or cool or acceptable, i parrot it because it's what i've experienced myself and seen

@mischievoustomato @ug @scathach

And you have zero professional experience and don't know what you're talking about. How about you start with that paper Anthropic put out the other day and put your brain to use, and try to make sense of the bullshit they're pumping.

@subnetter @ug @scathach has no use to me
I do want to learn about llms because of $personal_project

@mischievoustomato @ug @scathach

I feel like you're missing my point and you are giving off low vibrational energy

@subnetter @mischievoustomato @scathach

this is a great demonstration of how people who don’t know shit about programming think slop coding is great

@ug @mischievoustomato @scathach

Yeah but it's not just porn addicted 20 year olds using this shit, it's C-Suites and nutcases running our government using this shit to make decisions like Metal Gear Solid 2

@subnetter @mischievoustomato @scathach

something I always mention is that Claude and other models are being used to target missiles and draw up war plans by Israel and the US… LLM’s have kileld 10’s of thousands of people in the last few years, for people who claim to care about war crimes n shit that alone should be enough to not it and boycott these companies.

@ug @subnetter @scathach most people dont have a reason to care about people being blown up on the other side of the world, and those that pretend to care but still use it didnt really care anyway

@mischievoustomato @ug @scathach

It's not normal to lack empathy for others while your primary fixation is whether or not you have an iPhone, MBP, and whether or not you've jacked off to some 2D Chinese cartoons.

How you expect to find a girlfriend or life partner that would want to be around you without being financially compensated for it, is beyond me.

@subnetter @ug @scathach i dont expect to get a gf. Money can buy one at least.
Also i dont lack empathy (yet), but i just care about what i care. The people i care about just happen to be less than 20 currently
And even if it’s not normal, i dont have to be normal

@mischievoustomato @ug @scathach

Got some news for you tomato, you need money for that, and no amount of money will ever make a woman love you.

Yeah, it's not normal to casually be psychopathic. Why would anyone be attracted to that? Go die on that hill and see how the rest of your life goes lol

@subnetter @ug @scathach well, yeah i dont wanna buy love, i wanna buy sex… ive said that this already lol
Im just gonna be myself and thats it. Im not changing for others

@mischievoustomato @ug @subnetter @scathach Tomato vs Subnetter is unstoppable force meets immovable object

Just wait until the sequel where they have to team up to defeat To-mah-to and Domnetter, that’s gonna be kino

@GoblinKingNoticer @mischievoustomato @ug @scathach @Wiz who is domnetter 👀

Bizarro Subnetter, duh

@GoblinKingNoticer @mischievoustomato @ug @subnetter @scathach Dotnet doesn't really log in any more, and I think hell will freeze over before Subnetter and Tomato find common ground

Who the hell is Dotnet

@GoblinKingNoticer @mischievoustomato @ug @subnetter @scathach He's technically the operator of the Church, and allegedly my gay lover. There was a time he was known @dotnet reveal yourself

@Wiz @GoblinKingNoticer @dotnet @mischievoustomato @scathach @subnetter @ug he is for sure gay

@mischievoustomato @ug @scathach

You can't buy consent but ok.

@subnetter @mischievoustomato @scathach @ug buying sex will just give you depression and aids

@Ree @ug @subnetter @scathach not really, i have friends that go there regularly and their moods improved lol

@mischievoustomato @ug @subnetter @scathach i bet they have super aids right now and there is no cure for super aids

@subnetter @ug @scathach i dont view it as rape 🤷

@mischievoustomato @ug @subnetter @scathach homo

@mischievoustomato @subnetter @scathach

thanks for your input self proclaimed psychopathic dumbass

@mischievoustomato @ug @subnetter Most people do in fact care because most people aren't vapid amoral husks possessed only of lust and greed like you

@scathach @ug @subnetter if it makes you feel better…

@subnetter @ug @scathach look at it the bright side, its going to be hilarious

@subnetter @ug @mischievoustomato @scathach I only use it for hentai and digging into Super Nintendo games code like god intended

@coolboymew @mischievoustomato @scathach @ug

I'm sorry but this is a prime example about how men are primary the ones pushing this shit and using it for the dumbest reasons lol

@subnetter @ug @coolboymew @scathach we’re pioneeers

@subnetter @mischievoustomato @scathach @ug digging into your childhood games to find unused stuff, mess around, make Snes9x codes to screw around further is peak masculinity

@coolboymew @subnetter @mischievoustomato @scathach @ug I use it for trolling

@subnetter @ug @mischievoustomato @scathach coomers gotta coom

@subnetter @mischievoustomato @ug @scathach thank god, have you seen what these same people do with their own judgement

@mischievoustomato @ug @subnetter Tomato your entire personality and worldview is parroted, you're the human equivalent of a doormat

@scathach @mischievoustomato @subnetter

the other day tomato shared a lecture by the John Birch Society on how Ike was indeed a secret communists, and I mention John Birch society later in passing and they’re like “I don’t know who that is”

@scathach @ug @subnetter ad hominem much

@mischievoustomato @ug @subnetter @scathach and what do you think is worse, those guys pumping out those problems at the speed of AI or doing it at the speed of their fingers?

@sunbeam_rider @ug @subnetter @scathach the ones at the speed of fingers, they create a much smaller market to fix things

@ug @scathach i kind of also feel the 'stuff made directly by a person feels better than completely vibecoded stuff' but i dont think there's much difference between something vibecoded by someone responsible that already has experience and handcrafted stuff. And as models get better, the gap shrinks even for inexperienced people (and more and more people are making stuff just for themselves), so this is nice.

@scathach @ug uoh need $5 blowjob

@scathach @ug i know a couplenwhose passion for the theory and practice approach or match that of, say, electrical engineers
but they aren't anywhere near my image of a typical software developer