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@mangeurdenuage
It's not dissonance. They're consistent and also quite clear. It's a very personal betrayal. They feel that the people (whom they know to be evil chuds) are the source of their personal pain, and that of those they care for.

This meme was catastrophically wrong despite it's popularity IMO. The vibe I now get from woke isn't "I'm using your morality against you" but more "can you be held to any standard of morality at all? since you clearly don't care about our safety and structures".

I'm not at all saying they're correct about who they attack or that they have any leg to stand on themselves, but I think I'm starting to understand the logic.
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@gabriel @mangeurdenuage I don't think it's dissonance, there is some but mainly I think its tech people who don't understand the difference between "what I'm building today" and "what will bad people in power inevitably do with what I built". Boston Dynamics was always funded by the military wing of the government. Their 4-leg robots were built and proposed as "pack animals" that would do grunt work for soldiers. But anybody with half a fucking brain would realize they're building dog and humanoid robots for darpa and someone sometime in the military is going to point the thing at a human.

sometimes it is even "I know some bad uses will happen but it's worth it" and they are just wrong in their calculation (it happens) or they're not imaginative enough about what bad people will do with it. I admit I could be said to fall into the same category as this with AI shit. that is my steelmanning of their position, they're still wrong but could be understandable