I am generally anti-immigrant to the USA but I am also more or less an immigrant to Japan, where my "alien-ness" is more impactful. The irony is not lost on me.
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@sun Do you go to Japan and act like a total nigger and chimp out when they don't simply accept it? Do you demand that they adapt to you?
@echo I am a guest and I am doing my best to be respectful and fit in. It's hard but I'm trying.
@Leyonhjelm @echo I think that people that assimilate can be as american as white anglos tbh.
@sun @Leyonhjelm @echo a pretty good percentage of the rightoids I’ve known personally seem to believe this, not saying you’re a rightoid, just taking the slight tangent
@clawfulneutral
I don’t even know what “right” even means at this point. Left and right are just political insults at this point with no meaningful fixed qualities.
@sun @echo
I don’t even know what “right” even means at this point. Left and right are just political insults at this point with no meaningful fixed qualities.
@sun @echo
@Leyonhjelm @sun @echo regarding what I said, I was talking about people who culturally lean more toward stereotypically conservative views + are more strongly interested in paying lower taxes
@clawfulneutral
I don’t know what that means. I’m honestly not trying to be a pain in the ass but American conservatism died generations ago and most people are so caught up in the fight that they don’t notice. Nobody is fighting for lower taxes or conservative views. It’s all rural vs urban and each side has the most hackneyed caricature view of the other. Neither is liberal or conservative, neither is really “right” nor “left”.
And it’s unfortunate for everyone involved. What most Americans want is simply a good place to raise their kids and fund a family. Everything else is a distraction to make them hate each other.
@sun @echo
I don’t know what that means. I’m honestly not trying to be a pain in the ass but American conservatism died generations ago and most people are so caught up in the fight that they don’t notice. Nobody is fighting for lower taxes or conservative views. It’s all rural vs urban and each side has the most hackneyed caricature view of the other. Neither is liberal or conservative, neither is really “right” nor “left”.
And it’s unfortunate for everyone involved. What most Americans want is simply a good place to raise their kids and fund a family. Everything else is a distraction to make them hate each other.
@sun @echo
@clawfulneutral
Anyway, I got distracted. When I was growing up we had a lot of immigrant friends. Iranian. Mexican. Czech. A spattering of Asians across the board. They’d all come here just like the rest of us with the same goals. To be part of their community where they were raising their kids and making a living. Nobody was mad because you married a Japanese woman when you were there in the navy and have happa kids. Nobody cared that your family fled the Iranian revolution or came to work hard in America from a Mexico and were still working on fluency in English.
They did care if you did it lawfully.
Immigration now is a combination of non-assimilation, cultural carve outs, and in some cases takeovers. Many aren’t leaning English or are trying to ethnically take over some locales including politically. These are people openly antagonistic towards America and Americans. Their loyalty is abroad and they’re open about it. And a huge number aren’t here legally.
No matter how many times the news shows deranged Minneapolis lesbians saying otherwise, the majority of Americans just want to have a safe community to raise their kids and support their family. And won’t really be upset by whatever it takes to do that.
@echo @sun
Anyway, I got distracted. When I was growing up we had a lot of immigrant friends. Iranian. Mexican. Czech. A spattering of Asians across the board. They’d all come here just like the rest of us with the same goals. To be part of their community where they were raising their kids and making a living. Nobody was mad because you married a Japanese woman when you were there in the navy and have happa kids. Nobody cared that your family fled the Iranian revolution or came to work hard in America from a Mexico and were still working on fluency in English.
They did care if you did it lawfully.
Immigration now is a combination of non-assimilation, cultural carve outs, and in some cases takeovers. Many aren’t leaning English or are trying to ethnically take over some locales including politically. These are people openly antagonistic towards America and Americans. Their loyalty is abroad and they’re open about it. And a huge number aren’t here legally.
No matter how many times the news shows deranged Minneapolis lesbians saying otherwise, the majority of Americans just want to have a safe community to raise their kids and support their family. And won’t really be upset by whatever it takes to do that.
@echo @sun
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