It was painful to realize Protestantism is bad
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@SuperDicq @sun shinto ass nigga
@sun it's mostly all bad, the only good churches are the ones that perform marriages and funerals and leave well enough alone otherwise
@sun turning to catholicism just because american protestantism has devolved into effectively not having an organized theology is missing the point
@SuperDicq I can rank them
@whiteline protestantism was always bad not american protestantism
@whiteline @sun local hermetic alchemist hangs out with prostitutes and teaches stoicism. everyone grossly misunderstands the assignment.
@icedquinn @whiteline he mostly just said honor the spirit not the law and the law said no honor the law and everyone got it wrong within 20 years of his death
@whiteline my point is just because you rebelled against something bad doesn't make you good
@sun my family post to be protestant. But I class myslef non religious
@sun @whiteline thats what a traitor to the revolution would say!
@SuperDicq @menherahair shinto was heavily utilized by the japanese government as a nationalistic state religion to justify racism and imperialism
@SuperDicq @menherahair it's an explicitly ethnic religion btw its 100% tied to japanese islands and ethnicities, there's like two non japanese shinto priests worldwide and they're not recognized by most other shinto
@sun @Ree
I find it dubious to have a heavenly authority on Earth... the worlds are incompatible for a reason.
Generally speaking, protestantism removes enough dogma to enable focus on the substance of the religion.
That may have killed it, but this may be inevitable... the "spiritual but not religious" category has grown a lot over the last fifty years for a reason.
As Nietzsche pointed out, when you implement dualistic faith, you also remove the real-world utility of your faith.
I find it dubious to have a heavenly authority on Earth... the worlds are incompatible for a reason.
Generally speaking, protestantism removes enough dogma to enable focus on the substance of the religion.
That may have killed it, but this may be inevitable... the "spiritual but not religious" category has grown a lot over the last fifty years for a reason.
As Nietzsche pointed out, when you implement dualistic faith, you also remove the real-world utility of your faith.
@sun @menherahair @SuperDicq whats wrong with in group preference? calling it 'racism' is bigotry in itself, and i'd say its even worse if people subscribe to such bigotry and anti preference behavior
who the fuck are others to assume they can tell another human being how they can think and live
>dat person is raycis
then stay the fuck away from them and shut the fuck up
not sperging on you sun just really fuckin tired of racism being treated like its a thing because some groups of shit bags dont like tthey get treated how the content of their character demands
who the fuck are others to assume they can tell another human being how they can think and live
>dat person is raycis
then stay the fuck away from them and shut the fuck up
not sperging on you sun just really fuckin tired of racism being treated like its a thing because some groups of shit bags dont like tthey get treated how the content of their character demands
@sun @SuperDicq @menherahair
It's pretty normal in Pagan (ie. non-Abrahamic) religions to have an ethnic focus. But at the same time basically all of them draw influences and incorporate elements including deities and spirits from neighbouring groups. Shinto has a whole slew of kami which originated from China, Korea, India, etc. Even the word "kami" is from "kamuy" which is Ainu. Pagan attitudes towards foreigners varies, with some groups being very insular, and other groups being quite inclusive, even within European Paganism. When there's no central authority to dictate a person's authenticity, it's left up to the specific priesthood/tradition who train and initiate the person. But when a religion gets intertwined with centralised state authority/registration then it can take longer to untangle, especially if subsidies are involved.
https://www.greenshinto.com/2016/05/08/foreign-priests/
It's pretty normal in Pagan (ie. non-Abrahamic) religions to have an ethnic focus. But at the same time basically all of them draw influences and incorporate elements including deities and spirits from neighbouring groups. Shinto has a whole slew of kami which originated from China, Korea, India, etc. Even the word "kami" is from "kamuy" which is Ainu. Pagan attitudes towards foreigners varies, with some groups being very insular, and other groups being quite inclusive, even within European Paganism. When there's no central authority to dictate a person's authenticity, it's left up to the specific priesthood/tradition who train and initiate the person. But when a religion gets intertwined with centralised state authority/registration then it can take longer to untangle, especially if subsidies are involved.
https://www.greenshinto.com/2016/05/08/foreign-priests/
@sun @SuperDicq @menherahair this is wrong. basically everything written about japanese shinto in english is wrong though so i dont blame you, but if you want to know more you will have to read about 神仏分離. japanese sources on 国家神道 contradict western 'state shinto' fiction.
i suggest not talking about this topic until youve learned more about meiji era history
i suggest not talking about this topic until youve learned more about meiji era history
@SuperDicq @menherahair @sun
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_civil_religion its like calling this "state christianity"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_civil_religion its like calling this "state christianity"
@sun the spook of the 'national shinto religion' was used by the GHQ to purge japan of it's entirely secular civil service culture and replace it with american pyramid with eye culture.
for those with eyes it can be seen in nagatacho and in the new constitution.
for those with eyes it can be seen in nagatacho and in the new constitution.
@mono I am very interested in learning things contrary to american propaganda which influences every aspect of american education
@mono @menherahair @SuperDicq @sun
state christianity is very a thing in the states though, and intentionally so since mid 1900s yeh. putting it on the currency and in classrooms and leaders praying on tv
state christianity is very a thing in the states though, and intentionally so since mid 1900s yeh. putting it on the currency and in classrooms and leaders praying on tv
@sun i want to get the boys together to watch teito monogatari next weekend. it's got yokai and demons and shit but it's a good example of post-war japanese counter history aesthetics
@jaff @whiteline its an admission that no one can be assumed automatically to be good
@sun read MPD psycho, billy bat
gonna get around to reading ayako by tezuka next. someday when my reading is better i'd like to read this
https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E6%97%A5%E6%9C%AC%E3%81%AE%E9%BB%92%E3%81%84%E9%9C%A7
gonna get around to reading ayako by tezuka next. someday when my reading is better i'd like to read this
https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E6%97%A5%E6%9C%AC%E3%81%AE%E9%BB%92%E3%81%84%E9%9C%A7