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tehy do fund decentralized stuff too which is a counterpoint I guess but mostly it's "we need a government elon musk"

@sun they fund either complete trash money sinks like ESA or use the 'watering can principle' and give some little money to anyone who applies (including pleroma). there's zero strategy and founding a company that does anything with data is insanely annoying and risky in europe.

@sun my hot take on this is that the powers that be want the benefits of a nominally free society but structural changes are forcing the lies/rot/contradictions to the surface.

Societies are being forced to choose between actually faithfully respecting the people or the tried and true model of serfdom with shiny new tech on top. Both paradigms destabilize the status quo so half -measures are at best about buying time and delusional denial at worst.

@sun Nooo why does a malicious American company own my life, I want a malicious European company to own my life 😭

@sun My impression of European "tech sovereignty" is that it's mostly European tech bros trying to wish a bay area type tech industry into existence there

@scathach @sun I've been to some european tech conferences and talked to people about this and I think it's more like 'we should replace all the american parts of our stack with european publicly funded alternatives'
They definitely do not want our tech industry, funds, or our work culture, there is no jealousy over that.

@scathach @sun no, they are commies using free software as vehicle for their political agenda (i remotely know one or two active in this space). they think state owned/mandated infrastructure is good because currently the state is doing what they like. they hate freedom, they always put libertarianism/voluntaryism in the "nazi" corner - of course while larping as anarchists (because pop culture said it's cool). also they want free government money.