Egregoros

@sun i have some appreciation for the misskey approach of 'just put random shit in the object and let god sort it out'

@lain I felt a great sense of freedom working with Egregoros and not trying to ram everything through the mastodon-shaped pinhole anymore.

@raccoon @sun Cross server multiplayer games for example.

@raccoon what it was allegedly built for, not just microblogging and a couple shit-tier reddit clones

@sun @lain You can just ignore Mastodon. (Many don't understand this.)

@raccoon kind of abstract concept but you can store big graphs of linked data and build applications, including collaborative appliications, out of it.

@phnt @lain @sun there's easier ways to have no one to federate with

@i @lain @sun The two features I'm in the process of building into Pleroma are both incompatible with Mastodon, one will be a new FEP. Do you think I care that Mastodon users won't be able to take advantage of them? No, they can try to convince their emotionless CEO to support them. Not my problem.

@phnt @i @lain we have our own network, it's even smaller than mastodon. that prick just wants to build out mastodon, people give him more money so he can pay the hosting costs of dumping even more people just into mastodon.social I guess.

@sun @phnt @i @lain
>take money from the eu
>results into this

@mangeurdenuage @i @lain @phnt maybe the money they get is separated between hosting costs and developing mastodon but neither of those map cleanly to helping develop diverse activitypub ecosystem, it does happen but it's mostly driven by the needs of adding more features to mastodon

@sun @phnt @i @lain We are fully behind this as well. Have spoke with moon on several occasions and I support it whatever whether it be financially or dev or whatever. Was told not to talk about it but now that it's in the open, well

@phnt @i @lain are we all on the same page, we're just building the mastodon network now and it's not perfectly speaking the activitypub network but it has massively more investment and respect for it than that other project

@sun @i @lain He just wants his Mastodon™ network to grow. Let him have it. He can't even be assed to post on his own social media project. All he does is reprööt posts and post events he's at.

@graf @i @phnt @lain it's not really a formal statement at this point I'm just saying most of us just want to do our own thing and it's pretty clear the other people don't want most of us to help with the the other thing anyway

@sun @i @phnt @lain We still have the users, what's lacking is the fun. That's what the pleroma network needs.

@sun @i @lain Mastodon and Pleroma fixed ActivityPub, the spec as defined is almost useless to build a network on. It's a recipe on how to build your own federated activity-based protocol.

I'm not building the Mastodon network, I'm building a network based on ActivityPub that tries to be compatible with everything while not making compromises because of it. My absolute end goal is a V2 spec that is actually usable, or LitePub V1. And FEPs are just a vehicle for that.

@graf @i @lain @sun
>what's lacking is the fun. That's what the pleroma network needs.

This is a general statement on society as a whole. The fun on the Internet is mostly gone, reduced to ragebait and infighting.
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@sun @i @lain @phnt
>maybe the money they get is separated
That's what I'd do for reducing taxes.

@phnt @i @lain @graf @sun I had plans for a fediverse-themed video game a few years ago but with no real idea on how to implement it. Moon's webapp stuff has me wanting to take another crack at it though.

@VD15 @i @phnt @lain @graf I tried to make a fedi game for a fedi game jam and in the middle of it fucking mastodon killed a function I was using for it

@sun @i @phnt @lain @graf #ItsAlwaysMastodon

@VD15 @i @lain @graf @sun
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@phnt @i @lain @graf @sun Is an Amber-Hurd-style divorce from the mastodon network inevitable? And if so, who would shit in the bed?

@VD15 @i @phnt @lain @graf Want to do something cool with the Fediverse? #ItsNeverMastodon

@VD15 @i @phnt @lain @graf is Amber Hurd the founder of the GNU HURD project?

@sun @VD15 @i @phnt @lain reminder zuckerberg federates with poast but gargron cant handle it https://www.threads.com/moderated_servers (they removed poa.st for poast.org which doesnt federate at all)

@sun @i @phnt @lain @graf It's actually her ex-husband, Gregory Nolan Ulysses Hurd (she took the name in the divorce)

@graf @i @phnt @lain @sun Do people actually use threads? I never hear anyone talk about it

@sun @i @phnt @lain @graf "Cool?" The elephantware user exclaims in their 500-character limit. "That goes against our Code of Conduct!"

@VD15 @i @phnt @lain @graf it's quietly growing after a big initial launch high and big dropoff. my wife uses it constantly, apparently it's a much less toxic twitter.

@sun @VD15 @i @phnt @lain are you going to tell her to follow me?

@phnt @i @lain @VD15 @graf @sun pleroma crimes

@VD15 @phnt @lain @graf @sun mostly because it's still instagram, checking in from time to time their "for you" timeline is full of normie locals posting to relative success, the average thread there still has more replies/reactions

@i @phnt @lain @VD15 @graf it's getting basically no publicity as far as I can tell but I am watching my wife using it and there's a lot of organic activity.

@phnt @i @lain @VD15 @graf @sun what does Alex Gleason have to do with this?

@newt @i @phnt @lain @VD15 @ARznuwzRISfwWbGQuu.graf@poa.st @sun
He's vegetarian!

@newt @i @lain @VD15 @graf @sun It's his second clone.