what the fuck was that ad ramaswamy? that was more disturbing than almost anything i've seen online. AND YOU AIRED THAT? WTF IS WRONG WITH YOU???? WHAT THE FUCK WHAT THE FUCK WHAT THE FUCK????????????????
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@ube i dunno i stopped paying any attention to the man when he stood down for trump. i stopped even devils advocating anything GOP related when dan patrick put weed bans over childrens lives in texas. 
@icedquinn i despise the modern gop and i havent paid attention to him. but i saw even cnn video in feed call it disgusting so i thought, how bad can it be to warrant that? very bad, regret 
@ube @icedquinn I've seen hardcore maga Twitter people who even think it was awful and are voting for the other lady. One guy was like "this is the first time in my whole life I'm ever voting Democrat
@icedquinn @vriska @ube every time you see that its astroturf, they did it during obama first election too
@sun @icedquinn @ube he released a political ad that platformed the estranged mother of the other candidate who let her boyfriend rape the candidate when she was 9 years old. Nick "gay Mexican " Fuentes isn't astroturf. He said that he's appalled
@vriska @icedquinn @ube the only thing that will get trump voters at this stage to abandon trump is taking away their old people benefits
@icedquinn @sun @ube @vriska I think most people never really got back on. People voted against the democrats and to spite the obvious 2020 election fraud way more than they actually reboarded the Trump train
@leyonhjelm @icedquinn @vriska @sun @ube People wanted cheaper groceries and rent. Trump lied his ass off and said "I'll give you cheaper groceries and rent" while his unelected opponent said "ackshually if you look at the Harvard year-to-year inflationary metric it says your groceries are just as cheap as a year ago". There's a reason Kamala has done nothing but ride coattails her entire political career. She's incapable of standing on her own merits.
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@mrsaturday @leyonhjelm @icedquinn @sun @ube @vriska This basically. Trump kept winning not because he's some genius or great leader, but just because his opponents are so mind bogglingly retarded and disconnected from the concerns of the people that the people go for the guy that, while obviously lying, at least acknowledges that things exist. The opponents will deny the issues publically, in a "blue? what blue? there's no blue in the sky, and anyone who says blue exist is a white supremacist conspiracy theorist" manner.
@nerthos @icedquinn @leyonhjelm @sun @ube @vriska This is also why the DSA is gaining clout, they're actually addressing what people have issues with rather than relying on harm reduction voters giving them mandates to push through extremely unpopular policies
@mrsaturday @icedquinn @leyonhjelm @vriska @sun they would have never run it if it wasn't last minute clusterfuck after that terrible debate and dropping out. they shouldn't have pretand he was competent during the election cycle. honestly if they 25th amendmented him and kamala took over, she'd have much better odds, because she was clearly running things, and for all the admins faults, it was also pretty decent and competent and good. not as good as obama but, certainly way better than either trump term especially this one. and they invested good money into amtrak! 
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@ube @leyonhjelm @vriska @mrsaturday @sun i'm pretty sure they dumped biden because he wouldn't side with israel. remember he only became "officially" senile once the weapon shipments stopped.
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@icedquinn @leyonhjelm @vriska @mrsaturday @ube they tracked down who was really running stuff while he was senile and it was a big israel guy
@ube @icedquinn @leyonhjelm @vriska @sun Amtrak is a solution in search of a problem if you're outside of the BosWash
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@mrsaturday @leyonhjelm @vriska @sun @ube
Trump:
i'm going to make america great. i'm gonna make you all rich.
Harris:
I'M NOT MY OPPONENT, GUYS!
so it goes
Trump:
i'm going to make america great. i'm gonna make you all rich.Harris:
I'M NOT MY OPPONENT, GUYS!so it goes
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@icedquinn @leyonhjelm @vriska @mrsaturday @sun even now with all this success wave dems are still capitulating on trans rights and taxes and shit. ditching things that are genuinely popular like taxes the mega rich more. they're so fucking incompotent, thank god the dsa is growing, as much as americans call them "extremists", theyd be center left moderates in any other country, and actually are popular with even maga voters. like my goat abdul :^)
THEY ACTUALLY STAND FOR SHIT! POLICY! HOW DO NEITHER THE TRADITIONAL DEMS NOR REPUBLICANS MANAGE TO FIGURE THIS OUT??? PEOPLE DONT WANT CAPITULATIONS TO THE OTHER SIDE, OR SOLELY IDPOL, THEY WANT POLICY THAT WILL FIX THEIR ECONOMIC SITUATION AND STOP THE BROWNSHIRTS SHOOTING PEOPLE IN THE STREETS YOU DUMBASS POLITICIANS!!! FFS
THEY ACTUALLY STAND FOR SHIT! POLICY! HOW DO NEITHER THE TRADITIONAL DEMS NOR REPUBLICANS MANAGE TO FIGURE THIS OUT??? PEOPLE DONT WANT CAPITULATIONS TO THE OTHER SIDE, OR SOLELY IDPOL, THEY WANT POLICY THAT WILL FIX THEIR ECONOMIC SITUATION AND STOP THE BROWNSHIRTS SHOOTING PEOPLE IN THE STREETS YOU DUMBASS POLITICIANS!!! FFS
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@ube @icedquinn @leyonhjelm @vriska @sun Shit takes like "Celebrating Thanksgiving is white supremacy" and "America deserved 9/11" are pretty fucking extreme, and the people that believe them need to stay far away from any sort of levers of power
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@mrsaturday @ube @icedquinn @leyonhjelm @vriska obv trump is intolerably bad but dems are definitely relying on american goldfish-brain memory right now and they'll win
Does it matter anyomore?
@NonPlayableClown @icedquinn @leyonhjelm @vriska @mrsaturday @ube I assume the top-level control of all this stuff is controlled chaos rather than a giant orchestra conductor
@sun @NonPlayableClown @icedquinn @leyonhjelm @ube @vriska It's absolutely converging but warring interests.
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@sun @icedquinn @leyonhjelm @ube @vriska The current state of America is literally that Ben Garrison comic with Washington wearing two-tone pants and jackboots. Both sides hate the people they govern and view them as misbehaving serfs that need to be conned back into their cages. Maybe not as openly or as viscerally as Vivek does, but it's far from uncommon.
@mrsaturday @sun @icedquinn @leyonhjelm @ube @vriska the hate isn't necessary for the government to be as it is, that's just a bonus. The essential feature is that the rulers have interests that are completely detached from the interests of the ruled.
for all his faults and for however gay or deceitful it was at the time, Clinton saying "I feel your pain" is actually what these people should be able to say, and they can't. A meteor could abruptly wipe out half the US and the entire emotional reaction of everyone in DC would be: how do I profit from this?
for all his faults and for however gay or deceitful it was at the time, Clinton saying "I feel your pain" is actually what these people should be able to say, and they can't. A meteor could abruptly wipe out half the US and the entire emotional reaction of everyone in DC would be: how do I profit from this?
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@mrsaturday @leyonhjelm @vriska @sun @ube yeah they really went on a weird arc there. they used to be known as the party of union men and now they union bust and tell people that if they don't vote correctly "you aren't black."
the talking heads when harriss lost were super wild. they were like "this is just white supremacy in action!" and none of them considered they just forgot to run a campaign or have anything to offer.
the talking heads when harriss lost were super wild. they were like "this is just white supremacy in action!" and none of them considered they just forgot to run a campaign or have anything to offer.
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@mrsaturday @leyonhjelm @sun @ube @vriska i literally saw fediblobs say they wanted out of the DNC's batshit insane platform but it was "DNC or Trump" and for various reasons they can't side with
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@mrsaturday @icedquinn @leyonhjelm @sun @ube don't blame me I voted for kodos
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@mrsaturday @leyonhjelm @vriska @sun @ube that's the thing. they were basically asking for a centrist party lol
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@icedquinn @leyonhjelm @vriska @sun @ube The sooner we dump the "left center right" horseshit, the sooner we can be free
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@mrsaturday @leyonhjelm @vriska @sun @ube the polarities always existed they were just more permeable in the past. the real damage set in when they became party-lines 24/7 instead of it being mostly confined to the congress building.
in the past, they spoke a lot more than they do now.
in the past, they spoke a lot more than they do now.
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@icedquinn @leyonhjelm @vriska @mrsaturday @ube 24-7 news cycle via cnn in the 80s probably the real thing taht set it off rather than the internet like commonly blamed
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@sun @leyonhjelm @vriska @mrsaturday @ube they legitimately used to cross interact a lot more. there were some weird events in time where the parties started getting managed and they went in to the trump style "obey the booker only"
like congressional retreats used to be bipartisan affairs. its not just one thing
like congressional retreats used to be bipartisan affairs. its not just one thing
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@icedquinn @leyonhjelm @mrsaturday @ube @vriska I have heard the big thing that changed everything is when there was a big "politicians live in washington and they're isolated from their constituency" and there was a push to get them to move back home. Before, they spent more time in washington, their kids went to school together, etc and they saw each other as more human
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@sun @leyonhjelm @vriska @mrsaturday @ube i have no idea but they used to speak. the primary thing is getting people who believe in something back in office, and then getting them to speak, before values arguments and marketing means anything.
right now you're just listening to the booker's focus testing and its pointless to spend energy on kayfabe.
right now you're just listening to the booker's focus testing and its pointless to spend energy on kayfabe.
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@icedquinn @leyonhjelm @vriska @mrsaturday @ube yeah the other thing is the relentless pursuit of unlocked fund raising. I understand the impulse of "you can't keep money out of the process" but I think we demonstrated that if you try and fail iit is far better than nothing
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@sun @icedquinn @leyonhjelm @ube @vriska AM radio was a huge factor, too. It led to Gingrich which is when the partisan split really took hold
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@mrsaturday@shitposter.world @sun@shitposter.world @icedquinn@blob.cat @leyonhjelm@fsebugoutzone.org @ube@tsundere.love @vriska@lizards.live if you ever want to hear real politics on radio, get on shortwave.
@lolitechengineer @icedquinn @vriska @mrsaturday @leyonhjelm @ube I used to listen to bill coopers hour of the time on shortwave lol
@lolitechengineer @icedquinn @vriska @sun @leyonhjelm @ube I'm in the Midwest, not exactly good shortwave country. I do want to get a Baofeng though
@mrsaturday @lolitechengineer @icedquinn @leyonhjelm @sun @ube @vriska radio spergs have told me that Baofeng radios are slightly better than walkie-talkies and have a range of like 1 mile. functional HAM radios will cost $300 or more and require a power source.
@noyoushutthefuckupdad @icedquinn @leyonhjelm @lolitechengineer @sun @ube @vriska I just want to listen, not talk. Ham boomers can have their erectile dysfunctional circlejerk
@mrsaturday @icedquinn @leyonhjelm @lolitechengineer @sun @ube @vriska then how will you communicate with your clanmates during WW3?
@noyoushutthefuckupdad @mrsaturday @icedquinn @leyonhjelm @lolitechengineer @sun @ube @vriska thing is you don't because you would be dead
@noyoushutthefuckupdad @icedquinn @leyonhjelm @vriska @lolitechengineer @mrsaturday @sun @ube If you're under the age of 60 you use GMRS
@noyoushutthefuckupdad @mrsaturday @icedquinn @leyonhjelm @lolitechengineer @sun @ube @vriska if you try to transmit you will give away your position and get droned
@noyoushutthefuckupdad @mrsaturday @icedquinn @leyonhjelm @lolitechengineer @sun @ube @vriska ham radios will be picked up by every coiled copper wire in a 10 mile radius
@patriarchalape @noyoushutthefuckupdad @icedquinn @lolitechengineer @mrsaturday @sun @ube @vriska baofeng is a good receiver for random use and an ok transmitter for very close repeaters. I could use it on my farm to talk to my wife but she’s not licensed so she can’t talk back