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think of it this way:

if you buy a framework laptop new, some your money goes to Intel, which has tons of money in Israel and therefore supports a genocidal regime.

if you buy a used x86 laptop from 10 years ago intel doesn't see a dime.

you objectively have a moral imperative to never buy new x86 hardware with intel processors. And I'd highly recommend not giving AMD money either.

arguably taking used products off the market increases demand and thus prices for new products due to scarcity, so it's best to not buy recent used products either if you ask me

@wyatt unfortunately some of your money will probably go to israel even for purchasing something as innocuous as a banana

@genmaicha harm reduction still states that buying an intel processor will give israel more money than buying a banana though

don't try to equate the two because they are not equivalent. Intel has had huge business in Israel for decades (since the 1980s or 1970's actually)

@wyatt ... are you a utilitarian or something?

@genmaicha i know that word but i don't know exactly what its connotations are here or if they apply cleanly to me. You may have to be more specific than a one word label.

@wyatt how about consequentialist ethics, then: the idea that something is right or wrong based on its effects, rather than the doer's intention. utilitarianism is often categorized as a consequentialist system of ethics.

personally I subscribe more to virtue ethics because it doesn't have the weird corner cases of consequentialism; but I'm not well educated in philosophy and don't have super rigorous arguments to back up this view.