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@tyler It was created in response to NATO PDW 9mm. Supposed to be smaller, faster, and able to defeat soft armor, hold more rounds, while being lighter and more controllable. Higher speed flat trajectory was the goal.

While all of those things might be true. It's ungodly expensive compared to 9mm.

A lot of the jokes are "Let's start a GFM to help him replace the ammo used." :lamo:

@tyler @catmanmancat it is a little bullet (5.7 vs say 5.56), if it pencils it will make a little hole, if it is rip roaring it might tumble or petal and make a bigger hole like out of a P90

but it is a pistol round, so it kind of doesn't matter as it will not have enough speed or ass to do riffle stuff

it has low recoil and can hold a lot in a mag so shoot until a small hole turns off something important or the small holes make the pressure too low to keep the lights on