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@tyler It was created in response to NATO PDW 9mm. Supposed to be smaller, faster, and able to defeat soft armor, hold more rounds, while being lighter and more controllable. Higher speed flat trajectory was the goal.

While all of those things might be true. It's ungodly expensive compared to 9mm.

A lot of the jokes are "Let's start a GFM to help him replace the ammo used." :lamo:

The dude made a good point when he said to train as if your life depends on it.

No, that doesn't mean having an overpriced AR with an ACOG and a bunch of Magpul shit bolted all over it and no, it doesn't mean you need to be that guy at the range who can hit all the targets on the QR pistol course five seconds after the tone sounds, either.

Just have a good long gun & pistol combo that are broken in, clean & always ready to go, and, most importantly, be as current & proficient as possible on both.

Being ready doesn't mean shit if your iron isn't...and vice versa.

@tyler @catmanmancat it is a little bullet (5.7 vs say 5.56), if it pencils it will make a little hole, if it is rip roaring it might tumble or petal and make a bigger hole like out of a P90

but it is a pistol round, so it kind of doesn't matter as it will not have enough speed or ass to do riffle stuff

it has low recoil and can hold a lot in a mag so shoot until a small hole turns off something important or the small holes make the pressure too low to keep the lights on

>>e55cc305
guy was a practitioner of the law of attraction
his vision board had sketches of him sliming an active shooter
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🕯️manifest self defense situations🕯️
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@catmanmancat is jack duval shocked about the guy training or something? the suppressor on his carry gun is pretty fuckin kino
and i dunno who even makes such a holster, carrying a full size is big enough for me and he says he cross shoulder draws so its a huge piece hes clearing that fast
good on him

@ThePoastmasterGeneral @Bianca @catmanmancat "The thing about guns is, preferences are great, but they're all pretty good at killing people"

Thing is, tactically and legally, we're aiming to stop the perp. If he dies later from some 5.7 rounds that doesn't matter for the purpose of stopping him from killing other people.

5.7 is marginal, but while I don't know about this particular round in general it's about 10% hotter than the hottest .22 magnum (rimfire). It's big advantage over them is it's centerfire so it avoids silent primer contamination, Unless you get a CNS hit, you have to hope just getting hit will be enough to stop the perp, and he's not for example a home invader but probably an ideological shooter. Or you get a lucky torso hit that starts bleeding him out.

But the bottom line as noted elsewhere is that this civilian and an off-duty State Trooper are believed to have deterred the perp from shooting more people, they got the job done as far as we know at this early stage. And likely will know, since there's no real case left with the perp then killing himself.