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@mushroom_soup we could have actually voted our way out of this, it still came down to votes and young people don't fucking vote. literally just vote. it's how trump became president
@sun @mushroom_soup uhhhh electoral college determines more than a majority vote, Trump did not win the popular vote in 2016.
Furthermore, we have Elon's baby mama Ashley Saint Clair on the record admitting that Elon casually admitted to engaging in electoral fraud via his own admission. There was no NDA signed between them.
Trump's current win was predicted by how much money backed up his campaign in comparison to Kamala's, not that their policies are that different (Trump is more Democrat than Republican afterall).
You are getting someone who kisses Netanyahoos dick at the end of the day.
Only major difference is that Democrats pander and pretend to care by doing shit like not codifying Roe v Wade to dangle it over voters heads. It's all the same shit and pretending otherwise implies that you have not accepted that the empire is falling.
Furthermore, we have Elon's baby mama Ashley Saint Clair on the record admitting that Elon casually admitted to engaging in electoral fraud via his own admission. There was no NDA signed between them.
Trump's current win was predicted by how much money backed up his campaign in comparison to Kamala's, not that their policies are that different (Trump is more Democrat than Republican afterall).
You are getting someone who kisses Netanyahoos dick at the end of the day.
Only major difference is that Democrats pander and pretend to care by doing shit like not codifying Roe v Wade to dangle it over voters heads. It's all the same shit and pretending otherwise implies that you have not accepted that the empire is falling.
@subnetter @mushroom_soup that has nothing to do with primaries.
I will only concede that there are dozens of things that have effect on the result but this happened because boomers vote more (and do what fox news said).
I will only concede that there are dozens of things that have effect on the result but this happened because boomers vote more (and do what fox news said).
@sun @mushroom_soup
When Biden won, it was around the same time an influx of children of immigrants like myself were eligible to vote, so there was a mass wave of eligible voters who did participate in the 2020 election.
Even if Kamala won the popular vote it wouldn't have changed a single thing. I'm surprised that you are blaming "young people" over blaming the DNC and their incompetency. Kamala couldn't even pretend to be against the Palestinian genocide and expected to have votes come to her, along with the low effort campaign.
That's not even accounting for the technocrats who were propping up Trump's campaign. It was clear he was going to win from my perspective.
I'm not dumb enough to believe that this country would vote a woman as president with the current political climate.
When Biden won, it was around the same time an influx of children of immigrants like myself were eligible to vote, so there was a mass wave of eligible voters who did participate in the 2020 election.
Even if Kamala won the popular vote it wouldn't have changed a single thing. I'm surprised that you are blaming "young people" over blaming the DNC and their incompetency. Kamala couldn't even pretend to be against the Palestinian genocide and expected to have votes come to her, along with the low effort campaign.
That's not even accounting for the technocrats who were propping up Trump's campaign. It was clear he was going to win from my perspective.
I'm not dumb enough to believe that this country would vote a woman as president with the current political climate.
@subnetter @mushroom_soup I can get down into the weeds on this, I have participated in both democratic and republican primaries. first I want to say, I don't totally blame people for not wanting to participate, it's a time sink, and kind of distasteful because most people don't want to spend their time arguing politics in a hot room full of strangers.
democratic primaries are far less democratic than republican primaries, but it has changed somewhat recently. democrats used to straight up have party-picked superdelegates that were numerous enough to nearly outvote actual constituent-voted delegates, and that was in large part how hillary clinton got the nomination. During the Obama years, I watched as, in my district, the head of the democratic party was a hillary clinton supporter. We broke up into groups to argue for our desired candidates and finally to vote on delegate counts to send to the primary. Clinton got NO delegates. So, the clinton-supporting head made us vote again. She still got no delegates. She made us re-vote three more times until Clinton got four delegates.
Here's how the republican system went down: they had a "straw poll" for who should be the republican president of the USA. everyone voted. Then, the person in charge said, thanks everybody, after this point it's just party business, you can go home. Then, after most people left, they had the binding delegate vote lol.
democratic primaries are far less democratic than republican primaries, but it has changed somewhat recently. democrats used to straight up have party-picked superdelegates that were numerous enough to nearly outvote actual constituent-voted delegates, and that was in large part how hillary clinton got the nomination. During the Obama years, I watched as, in my district, the head of the democratic party was a hillary clinton supporter. We broke up into groups to argue for our desired candidates and finally to vote on delegate counts to send to the primary. Clinton got NO delegates. So, the clinton-supporting head made us vote again. She still got no delegates. She made us re-vote three more times until Clinton got four delegates.
Here's how the republican system went down: they had a "straw poll" for who should be the republican president of the USA. everyone voted. Then, the person in charge said, thanks everybody, after this point it's just party business, you can go home. Then, after most people left, they had the binding delegate vote lol.
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