remember how before chat gippity came along it was common for people to say constraints make better products, usually with regard to old games or movies before CGI
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@deprecated_ii Silver lining, removing the constraint of "every creative choice must be made by committee" might open us up to a lot more experimental stuff
@Kazak @deprecated_ii Counterpoint: most people who are going to "benefit" from this are not particularly creative and nothing new is really offered in the area of artistic freedom that the internet doesn't already provide. Due to direct funding a lot of the "committee" is already dead for independent artists who have an audience.
@wgiwf @deprecated_ii What do you mean by "nothing new"? AI has unquestionably made solo video production and solo game development like 100x easier. The scope for what's viable for solo projects is way broader now than it's ever been
@Kazak @wgiwf there's a saying that art comes from struggle (or whatever those goobers say), and I used to laugh at it because I thought it meant you had to be one of those performatively tortured starving artist types to make "real" art. like pain itself was somehow an essential part of the work
but I have a new appreciation for the saying now. it's not about suffering, it's about putting in the work to develop skills, to learn the craft and the body of work relevant to what you want to do, and that journey turning you into someone who can make good art
with AI, almost nobody will put in the work anymore. they can jump straight to an outcome, but the outcome will be shit
it's climbing a mountain vs having a helicopter drop you off at the top
but I have a new appreciation for the saying now. it's not about suffering, it's about putting in the work to develop skills, to learn the craft and the body of work relevant to what you want to do, and that journey turning you into someone who can make good art
with AI, almost nobody will put in the work anymore. they can jump straight to an outcome, but the outcome will be shit
it's climbing a mountain vs having a helicopter drop you off at the top
AI isn't stopping anyone from drawing and being poor while doing it.
@Humpleupagus @wgiwf @Kazak there is not a literal barrier in place to stop them. that doesn't change the fact that many people will now CHOOSE to slap the easy button rather than struggle through problems. and as a result, they will not learn and grow
Those people are losers anyway. Most artists are basically insufferable, tranny brained faggots — "i'm important because Im an artist and you have to recognize that". Is that really what you want to support?
As I see it your argument is.... its going to discourage people from pursuing a craft for the wrong reasons and that's bad.
Sorry, AI actually makes art more authentic, no only for the reason I stated above, but because it also brings creation closer to the self for those who don't paint or draw. They can basically commission a work and even refine it to their imagining. The classic artist is far more distant from the self.
All this AI hate is just fuckimg dumb. It's a bunch of NPCs regurgitating talking points without really thinking through the existential relationship between the self and it's ability to create. AI enhances that, and doesn't otherwise prohibit classic methods.
As I see it your argument is.... its going to discourage people from pursuing a craft for the wrong reasons and that's bad.
Sorry, AI actually makes art more authentic, no only for the reason I stated above, but because it also brings creation closer to the self for those who don't paint or draw. They can basically commission a work and even refine it to their imagining. The classic artist is far more distant from the self.
All this AI hate is just fuckimg dumb. It's a bunch of NPCs regurgitating talking points without really thinking through the existential relationship between the self and it's ability to create. AI enhances that, and doesn't otherwise prohibit classic methods.
@Humpleupagus @deprecated_ii @wgiwf @Kazak I have had ai do more to help me than any single artists total body of work ever has, and the ai didn't ask for a single cent, ai never left me in the lurch for a year or more, ai otherwise lied to me or was wrong at least as often as a regular human artist, but no human artist ever has helped me write code to enable autofire in a game that wasnt suited for it (peace walker)
I put in the hard work to create something, ai is right there along side me to help in real time
I hand that exact same hard work to an artist, 50% chance I never get anything back, another 50% of the remainder is ruined by incompetence
I put in the hard work to create something, ai is right there along side me to help in real time
I hand that exact same hard work to an artist, 50% chance I never get anything back, another 50% of the remainder is ruined by incompetence
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