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@madison Well, I've been to rehab 9 times. I could be considered an expert. It is rare that an alcoholic can benefit from rehab and will have long term sobriety unless they really want to go and are absolutely tired of living like that. I currently have ~15 months sober. I had to burn my life down so I could finally be done. The family has to be 100% committed to cutting that person off COMPLETELY. Rehab, the right one, can be very beneficial but not entirely necessary. Feel free to ask any questions and I'd be willing to talk to this person if they're open to it. If he's anything like me he's currently living in something very close to hell and I'd love to help.

I knew one person who went in and out of rehab multiple times. For her it didn't work, she never addressed the underlying issues so she kept going back.

I know one other person who used amanita moscara and meditation in order to rewire herself a bit. It worked amazingly well, she can drink alcohol normally with a meal without her brain screaming at her to keep drinking and typically she doesn't drink at all for months.

I suspect she's an unusual case though, I wouldn't recommend it for everyone although I gather it is a recognised therapeutic practice. If it helps I have a book she gave me about it.

@madison the rehab industry is an absolute grift. their business model depends on people NOT staying sober. for some, it does help to be separated from their daily life for a month while they adjust to life w/o drugs and alcohol but ONLY if they want to be sober and are ready to change some big things

the most important thing to know is that rehab absolutely cannot give someone the desire to stop drinking. the alcoholic has to desire that on his own. if he really does want to stop, deep down in his secret heart, then he doesn't need treatment but he will need AA. he might need a medically supervised detox, alcohol withdrawal can be dangerous. they don't teach you how to stay sober in treatment.

if he's been in and out of AA and has some distorted ideas about God and is using that as an excuse, he's not ready to quit. a lot of ppl are never ready to quit and they die with or of the disease. and it is definitely a disease of the soul.