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@kernow @benis_redux @pwm I let the girl talk her heart out to me when we're together. And then I pick at interesting things she says and they become a tangent and then it goes off into another... a loop of sorts. I actually enjoy this and I don't really care if she likes me or not. But it works out cause I spill in some romantic stuff and try to close the physical distance. If i'm lucky I get a kiss and a good sucky on the boobie (this is real and it happened)
@kernow i have a pretty simple romantic philosophy. I've also not succeeded yet so yakno.

1. always say what you mean.
2. be patient and caring and all that.
3. keep in mind that your time is precious

Not that it's less so for men, but you guys get to fumble romantically without it super mattering for 20-30 years more than women (not socially, but medically)