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2this is actually not just a le funny meme. the original zelda is really hard to play for a modern player, not just because of the graphics, but because it feels confusing and is hard to play. this was the case even back in the day. twilight princess looks great, plays great, has maybe some parts that are hard to understand, but overall, it could be released today with small changes and feel modern. so was there no progress in the last 20 years?
@lain The original Legend of Zelda was built for a world where kids would exchange information, show each other how to progress, buy magasines and or guides, or call Nintendo's hotline for help to finish it, and still feel the satisfaction of having beat the game. At the very least, you need to draw maps and be willing to do tedious trial and error to beat it truly on your own.
Gamers nowaday don't tolerate that, they expect a game they can beat with no external help, and no external tool (which is to say, no taking pen and paper maps, if manual map making is expected then at least gamers expect the tool to be inside the game).
I'll be honest, there's so many free (legally, gray area or not) or cheap games any friction, be it as simple as getting a pen and some graph paper, is a tough ask now.
Gamers nowaday don't tolerate that, they expect a game they can beat with no external help, and no external tool (which is to say, no taking pen and paper maps, if manual map making is expected then at least gamers expect the tool to be inside the game).
I'll be honest, there's so many free (legally, gray area or not) or cheap games any friction, be it as simple as getting a pen and some graph paper, is a tough ask now.
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@guizzy all true, but it was still obscure and hard to understand even back then. i don't want to elevate the mode of the time beyond what it is.
@lain @guizzy just go to the secret at the upper right corner of the map to get money, then go to the secret shop to buy the power armor or something, and then use the secret to get the power sword, then go to the secret dungeon that is actually mandatory and which is hidden behind a tree which looks exactly like the others, it's not that hard
@bartholin @lain What, you couldn't tell this is clearly a skull? And/or a pair of spectacles? Maybe you need to wear spectacles, it's super obvious!
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I don't know that I wholly agree with this. I feel there's a lot of gamers now that miss getting lost in a game.
Older games often used their directionless nature to make the world feel bigger than it was. It was around the PS1 era where games started to become more cinematic.
I've had friends play through Morrowind for the first time ever and just enjoy being relatively "lost" in the world. A lot of people are picking up older MMOs like FF11 and Everquest for their lack of guidance and reliance on community.
I don't think oldschool games are replacing modern ones, but I think people are appreciating the old styles again. It's ironically novel to a lot of people.
@lain
I don't know that I wholly agree with this. I feel there's a lot of gamers now that miss getting lost in a game.
Older games often used their directionless nature to make the world feel bigger than it was. It was around the PS1 era where games started to become more cinematic.
I've had friends play through Morrowind for the first time ever and just enjoy being relatively "lost" in the world. A lot of people are picking up older MMOs like FF11 and Everquest for their lack of guidance and reliance on community.
I don't think oldschool games are replacing modern ones, but I think people are appreciating the old styles again. It's ironically novel to a lot of people.
@lain