remember how before chat gippity came along it was common for people to say constraints make better products, usually with regard to old games or movies before CGI
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@deprecated_ii Silver lining, removing the constraint of "every creative choice must be made by committee" might open us up to a lot more experimental stuff
@Kazak @deprecated_ii Counterpoint: most people who are going to "benefit" from this are not particularly creative and nothing new is really offered in the area of artistic freedom that the internet doesn't already provide. Due to direct funding a lot of the "committee" is already dead for independent artists who have an audience.
@wgiwf @deprecated_ii What do you mean by "nothing new"? AI has unquestionably made solo video production and solo game development like 100x easier. The scope for what's viable for solo projects is way broader now than it's ever been
@Kazak @wgiwf there's a saying that art comes from struggle (or whatever those goobers say), and I used to laugh at it because I thought it meant you had to be one of those performatively tortured starving artist types to make "real" art. like pain itself was somehow an essential part of the work
but I have a new appreciation for the saying now. it's not about suffering, it's about putting in the work to develop skills, to learn the craft and the body of work relevant to what you want to do, and that journey turning you into someone who can make good art
with AI, almost nobody will put in the work anymore. they can jump straight to an outcome, but the outcome will be shit
it's climbing a mountain vs having a helicopter drop you off at the top
but I have a new appreciation for the saying now. it's not about suffering, it's about putting in the work to develop skills, to learn the craft and the body of work relevant to what you want to do, and that journey turning you into someone who can make good art
with AI, almost nobody will put in the work anymore. they can jump straight to an outcome, but the outcome will be shit
it's climbing a mountain vs having a helicopter drop you off at the top
AI isn't stopping anyone from drawing and being poor while doing it.
@Humpleupagus @wgiwf @Kazak there is not a literal barrier in place to stop them. that doesn't change the fact that many people will now CHOOSE to slap the easy button rather than struggle through problems. and as a result, they will not learn and grow
Those people are losers anyway. Most artists are basically insufferable, tranny brained faggots — "i'm important because Im an artist and you have to recognize that". Is that really what you want to support?
As I see it your argument is.... its going to discourage people from pursuing a craft for the wrong reasons and that's bad.
Sorry, AI actually makes art more authentic, no only for the reason I stated above, but because it also brings creation closer to the self for those who don't paint or draw. They can basically commission a work and even refine it to their imagining. The classic artist is far more distant from the self.
All this AI hate is just fuckimg dumb. It's a bunch of NPCs regurgitating talking points without really thinking through the existential relationship between the self and it's ability to create. AI enhances that, and doesn't otherwise prohibit classic methods.
As I see it your argument is.... its going to discourage people from pursuing a craft for the wrong reasons and that's bad.
Sorry, AI actually makes art more authentic, no only for the reason I stated above, but because it also brings creation closer to the self for those who don't paint or draw. They can basically commission a work and even refine it to their imagining. The classic artist is far more distant from the self.
All this AI hate is just fuckimg dumb. It's a bunch of NPCs regurgitating talking points without really thinking through the existential relationship between the self and it's ability to create. AI enhances that, and doesn't otherwise prohibit classic methods.
@Humpleupagus @wgiwf @Kazak Your first paragraph is the honest one. You don't care about this because you identify artists as the enemy, as do lots of other people around here. You fail to recognize that it isn't going to just fuck up art, it's going to fuck up everything else too, from engineering to medicine.
Don't be a faggot. I spend hours a day writing and mixing music, not for you or anyone else. I don't need to alienate my works. I like making things and experimenting when doing it. I do it for me. AI isn't stopping me. Rather it helps me. It organizes sample banks. It assists in calculations and creating fx chains, etc.
If someone else wants to use AI to make a song, that's cool. Go for it. Maybe it will sound like shit, maybe it will be novel, maybe an accident will occur and one that gives us new ideas.
If someone else wants to use AI to make a song, that's cool. Go for it. Maybe it will sound like shit, maybe it will be novel, maybe an accident will occur and one that gives us new ideas.
@Humpleupagus @wgiwf @Kazak ah, the slopper is pissed he was called out. many such cases
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5Woman moment. Why are you a leftist queer?
@Humpleupagus @wgiwf @Kazak nigger, nobody forced you to come in here and get all pissy. you haven't addressed the vast majority of what I've said, you just say NUH UH instead
why the fuck WOULD anyone struggle through, e.g., an electrical engineering degree legitimately if they can just cheat to get the paycheck? what is your answer to the massive deskilling that's happening right now across a bunch of industries? are you just going to deny it exists?
my points are rooted in basic human nature and irrefutable as a result, but you're sitting here arguing against them because you like having a slop slave and don't want to admit perhaps it is harmful to use it
why the fuck WOULD anyone struggle through, e.g., an electrical engineering degree legitimately if they can just cheat to get the paycheck? what is your answer to the massive deskilling that's happening right now across a bunch of industries? are you just going to deny it exists?
my points are rooted in basic human nature and irrefutable as a result, but you're sitting here arguing against them because you like having a slop slave and don't want to admit perhaps it is harmful to use it
You haven't responded to a single point I made, faggot. Instead you engaged in typical female brained behavior. I've seen your posts. Your should move your account to ImInTheCloset.club.
@Humpleupagus @wgiwf @Kazak go fuck yourself, queer. you argue like an abo