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@fluffy @sun Is there actually a problems with "noahide law??"

Per Wikipedia (I know, I know):

The Seven Laws of Noah as traditionally enumerated in the Babylonian Talmud (Sanhedrin 56a-b) and Tosefta (Avodah Zarah 9:4), are the following:

1. Not to worship idols.
2. Not to curse God.
3. Not to commit murder.
4. Not to commit adultery or sexual immorality.
5. Not to steal.
6. Not to eat flesh torn from a living animal.
7. To establish courts of justice.

Which sounds mostly like a disjoint set of the Ten Commandments. the last two are not in them. Somehow, I've never had a desire to eat flesh torn from a living animal (was a hunter so this was not abstract, mercy kills of wounded animals is a thing), and establishing courts of justice is basic civilization to get you out of the domain of "self help" and the resulting blood feuds etc.

Or given this is a Talmud thing, is the problem in interpretation?

@Zettour @fluffy @sun Again, interpretation of what should (mostly) be clear language. A defining Jewish characteristic.

Not a Talmud scholar ( ) but I do remember for instance coming across claims of the text that said stealing from goyim is or could be legit.

There's also the notorious early middle ages snatching of Christian children to sell as slaves, and after they lost the battle with Christians in the middle middle ages or so, the Ashkenazi at minimum engaging in the "blood libel" as a particularly twisted form of revenge.

There's the problem that murder is an ... interpreted term for lack of a better word coming to me now, vs. homicide, which is simply a human killing another human. Way too much wiggle room for sociopathic Jews there, and to this day against Russians for example. Plus at least some claim gentiles aren't human, or they are a different sort of human....

(Too many of us say the same about negroes....)