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anyway anyone who called me paranoid for wiping my devices prior to leaving/entering the US can go ahead and suck shit now.

https://techcrunch.com/2026/07/24/us-accuses-american-of-allegedly-wiping-his-phone-using-a-duress-password-during-border-search/

@7666@comp.lain.la couldn't he have just refused to give a passcode? authorities can't force you to give a passcode or deny US citizens entry over it to my understanding. ofc this sounds like they aren't following the law at all

@anemone @7666 they can demand it at a border or not let you in even if you're a citizen.

@sun @anemone the appearance of compliance is incredibly valuable.

@7666 @anemone so basically it falls into a category same as if you forget your password. if a judge thinks you're bullshitting, youre in contempt of court indefinitely, they don't have to prove that apparently.

@7666 @anemone the reason I bring this up is, the password rule in court is getting undermined, I am not sure it actually even applies anymore, it used to be a password was protected because it's in your mind

@sun @anemone this is why you have to appear to be complying but intentionally be unable to. same argument for E2E, same argument for not keeping IPs around, same argument for keeping your shit off your body so when someone asks for a device they get exactly what they asked for, nothing more.

@7666 @anemone i agree, you have to look as innocent and incompetent as possible

@sun@shitposter.world @7666@comp.lain.la yeah I was more talking about what to do after you've fucked up. wiping everything is obviously the correct answer. sucks to have to wipe and restore everything whenever you enter and exit the country though because of these freaks. i need to get out of here

@anemone @7666 I think most european countries have the same rules but I'm not sure. I mean, for border crossings. uk can just make you cough up the password, no legal protection

@sun@shitposter.world @7666@comp.lain.la fwiw as of today the CBP still says they cannot prevent a US citizen entry for refusing to disclose their passcode: https://www.cbp.gov/travel/cbp-search-authority/border-search-electronic-devices