I think it's impressive that israel brainwashed millions of american christians that their country has any biblical relevance
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@sun I mean if youre not a supercessionist it does because its part of Gods promise to the jewish people but Israel won't be a very relevant important country until end times, and definitely in its current form it isnt worth celebrating
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What does the US teach for people for this to happen ?
In France catechism just explains where are the villages/city and were Jesus and his apostles who/where.
At least in my time.
What does the US teach for people for this to happen ?
In France catechism just explains where are the villages/city and were Jesus and his apostles who/where.
At least in my time.
@sun when israel is destroyed who will they decide to heretically revere next 
@georgia the real israel would
@sun that is the holy land where Jesus came from. the land itself is extremely relevant to the bible, historically, but the modern state of israel isn't controlled by jews who follow the torah. that's the real problem. christian zionism is a military psyop.
@sun pretty sure God needs to come back as israels king for Israel to be a light to the nations. if "they arent ruled by God but by evil men" is what you mean by fake Israel then youre right
@meowski that's what I'm saying
@georgia yeah I don't think christians are obligated to support it
@sun oh I don't think so either
@sun I say bomb isreal and let God sort it out.
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History has shown you can convince anyone of anything if you can find some way to contort your agenda into a BuyBull context. It's the oldest grift on earth.
History has shown you can convince anyone of anything if you can find some way to contort your agenda into a BuyBull context. It's the oldest grift on earth.
@sun "american christians" includes belief systems so completely unhinged you'd be tempted to think that the brain capable of holding them would have speciated from the rest of H. sapiens sapiens by now
Americans have -5 penalty to brainwashing saves tho so it's less impressive than it seems
@sun They didn't; that's a myth propagated by Redditors (so they can blame the crimes of a protected class on an unprotected class) and by neocon senators (because "voters think Israel is holy and I'm doing what they want" sounds better than "Israel has pictures of me fucking a headless six year old").
There are overwhelming amounts of polling that demonstrate very clearly that the public does not support Israel at anywhere near the level Congress does, and that this dearth of support extends to Evangelicals, Christians, and whoever else they might blame.
There are overwhelming amounts of polling that demonstrate very clearly that the public does not support Israel at anywhere near the level Congress does, and that this dearth of support extends to Evangelicals, Christians, and whoever else they might blame.
@AmericanChampion that only has happened fairly recently, I grew up in this environment
@sun I maintain that anything normal Americans say to this effect amounts to a kind of "sure, whatever, why not" reaction, where all the talking heads that say things they agree with on other issues also say that Israel is great, and it doesn't matter enough to them to look it up. If you can bundle bunches of ideas into a small number of platforms, it's fairly cheap to get people to "believe" whatever you want on one issue as long as they don't really care about it at all.
This is meaningful because it means that there was never a core group of voters that really, really liked Israel. It polled well and then it didn't, but it never held salience, and I suspect that voters would always have opposed giving them so much aid if it were put to a vote.
This is meaningful because it means that there was never a core group of voters that really, really liked Israel. It polled well and then it didn't, but it never held salience, and I suspect that voters would always have opposed giving them so much aid if it were put to a vote.