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@dsm @bajax @p @ForbiddenDreamer @noids roughly, there'd be no need for the ban of self defense if it were 100% useless; the bonds formed between fighters and their teachers is concern enough. tangentially, the history of Tai Chi and how it split into the useless wellness practice known today and the underground-- and frankly impressive when properly performed-- grappling sport. It only became meditation focused when China got scared of the word "master" under the guise of credentialism, IIRC.