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>Being anti-censorship makes you a Nazi apologist

@scathach not directly related but the term "free speech" is going to forever bother me because it does not exist. No i dont mean "everything is so censored" now i mean it literally does not exist as a concept. Ive never once heard anyone define it in a way that didn't sound like handwavy schizophrenia.

@RustyCrab @scathach lol how do you mean?

@bajax @scathach define it for me please. Dont just cite the first amendment.

@RustyCrab @scathach It's not an apriori thing as such, it's a doctrine with a specific goal: to prevent power from leveraging an ability to control communication (and therefore thought) into a destructive tyranny.

in edge cases there's room for interpretation but the overall intent of it is pretty clear and useful.

@bajax @scathach its "useful" but its not at all clear. When people say that they normally mean "freedom from consequences" which does not make sense in any world. The law is full of exceptions on this and discussions always fall into "well THATS not free speech thats..."

my point is its a nonsensical concept to try and work around the reality that two groups with irreconcilable differences should probably not be living together

@RustyCrab @bajax @scathach communists don't believe in it in the first place but they'll happily use it while you're in power to undermine you, until they are in power.