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@phnt@pl.borked.technology

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@mint @kaia @yonle I run two mailservers, I'm in no way against hosting your own email, but just like with GNU/Bootlickers pushing unusable and broken software/hardware to unsuspecting people calling it how amazing and fully working it is, the people that push self-hosting your own mail server should also take a step back and think to whom to they recommend it and how they talk about the reality of hosting it. It is not all sunshine and roses.
@SuperDicq
>So when is it "Debian"
When it is the OS as distributed in its minimal form for it to be legally called Debian, ie likely debootstrap.

>and when is it "third party"?
Every package that isn't maintained and developed by Debian, so basically everything that isn't dpkg/apt. Kernel and systemd are also third parties on your system.

And even still if you go the route you suggest that Debian is fully first-party. Mirrors of it aren't except those maintained by Debian.

It's like saying that everything in the Windows store is first-party because Microsoft provides the infra and choose what to allow and therefore kinda maintain it.