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Phantasm

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Self-hosting is dead, long live self-hosting

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Another entry in my late-at-night rants, this time about the death of self-hosting as we know it. Also suya..

https://evilmaid.net/blog/self-hosting-is-dead-long-live-self-hosting/index.php

silverpill

@silverpill@mitra.social remote

@phnt

>dockerslop

For interpretable programming languages (e.g. Python), non-docker setups may be too difficult to maintain so developers simply don't bother. Any OS update on the user side may break their setup. Any library update on the maintainer side may break some user's setup. It never ends.

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Phantasm

@phnt@fluffytail.org remote

@silverpill This is mostly a Python being a horrible language problem. Perl or Ruby don't have this issue unlike in Python land where a venv is almost a necessity. It is impressive how many breaking changes Python can fit into every _minor_ release.

RT: https://fluffytail.org/objects/e725d71d-21f7-4bad-93e7-e23355ae699f

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mangeurdenuage 🌿

@mangeurdenuage@shitposter.world remote

@phnt @silverpill
>It is impressive how many breaking changes Python can fit into every _minor_ release.
This is notably why Source Mage is a thing, remove the bydon bloat to have something easier to maintain than Gentoo.