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LÆMEUR

I'm seeing a lot of articles talking about how a lot of college grads are unemployed and how college isn't a guaranteed pathway to a career/job anymore (was it ever?), and the general opinion seems to be, well, I guess there's no point in going to college anymore!

Which is mind-blowingly stupid. Spending some time in university isn't JUST a career on-ramp -- it's supposed to make you a more broad-minded, complete, and capable person -- and is most beneficial for folks disinclined to self-study.

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Blurry Moon

@sun@shitposter.world remote

17w

@laemeur realistically I don't think it lives up to the hype anymore of making you a well-rounded individual. I would agree with you if it did but at this point it's an overpriced status signifier and should be rejected byh most people.

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Blurry Moon

@sun@shitposter.world remote

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@laemeur to be clear I mean, it is SOOOOO overpriced that it no longer is worth either the class signifier OR the well rounded education. it literally is debt slavery at this point if you're middle class.

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clacke

@clacke@libranet.de remote

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@sun Aren't there still community colleges worth attending?

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Blurry Moon

@sun@shitposter.world remote

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@clacke @laemeur community college 2-year associates degree is mostly "here's the stuff you were supposed to learn in high school, again". It's not remotely the state or private university experience. I have done both

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Blurry Moon

@sun@shitposter.world remote

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@clacke @laemeur also associates degree won't get you a job so it's not a substitute

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clacke

@clacke@libranet.de remote

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@sun @laemeur So the real solution is to study in Norway, which still offers free uni for non-EU foreigners. 😁

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Blurry Moon

@sun@shitposter.world remote

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@clacke @laemeur I still love the idea of university in the USA yeah I just think it’s degraded intellectually and become too expensive.

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🌲

@scathach@stereophonic.space remote

@laemeur >it's supposed to make you a more broad-minded, complete, and capable person

Hahahaha yeah no it doesn't

College/university is worth the costs if and only if you either specifically want to study something that's hard to self-study (eg, Sumerian cuneiform) or want to enter a field that's effectively closed to people without degrees (eg, medicine). Even then I'd strongly recommend sticking to cheap state schools; no amount of dubious "prestige" or "networking opportunity" is worth dealing with crippling student debt. Also, going to college straight out of high school is a really terrible idea

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Blurry Moon

@sun@shitposter.world remote

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@scathach @laemeur incidnetally I think you can learn sumerian cuneiform yourself nowoadays lol

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The Gormed

@RustyCrab@clubcyberia.co remote

@laemeur english major detected

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Prieto-kun (unemployed arc)

@sneeden@0.5dollah.click remote

@RustyCrab @laemeur these days, the only thing getting broadened by college is the assholes of fools after that $80K loan debt lmao

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PunishedD

@PunishedD@clubcyberia.co remote

@laemeur It's "supposed" to do all that, but nowadays it does that about as effectively as it gets you a guaranteed career.

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Stone Cold Steve Autism

@mrsaturday@shitposter.world remote

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@laemeur >it's supposed to make you a more broad-minded, complete, and capable person
That hasn't been the case since WW2. At this point, it's a way to turn 5 years of your life and $80k into a piece of paper that tells HR not to gatekeep you.