basically every christian zionist lies about noahide law, which is pretty ironic considering that involves breaking a commandment about lying which is a more fundamental violation of christian law
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@sun i've never heard the phrase before.
perhaps it is merely parroted and misunderstood on their part. those guys tend not to chase true meaning
perhaps it is merely parroted and misunderstood on their part. those guys tend not to chase true meaning
@fluffy @sun Is there actually a problems with "noahide law??"
Per Wikipedia (I know, I know):
The Seven Laws of Noah as traditionally enumerated in the Babylonian Talmud (Sanhedrin 56a-b) and Tosefta (Avodah Zarah 9:4), are the following:
- Not to worship idols.
- Not to curse God.
- Not to commit murder.
- Not to commit adultery or sexual immorality.
- Not to steal.
- Not to eat flesh torn from a living animal.
- To establish courts of justice.
Which sounds mostly like a disjoint set of the Ten Commandments. the last two are not in them. Somehow, I've never had a desire to eat flesh torn from a living animal (was a hunter so this was not abstract, mercy kills of wounded animals is a thing), and establishing courts of justice is basic civilization to get you out of the domain of "self help" and the resulting blood feuds etc.
Or given this is a Talmud thing, is the problem in interpretation?
@ThatWouldBeTelling @fluffy @sun The problem is the jews think Jesus is a false idol, therefore Christianity is prohibited under noahide.
@Wpedantic @fluffy Ah ha! Yes, a matter of interpretation, and correct for them, however misguided they are.
So @sun is talking about something Kosher "Christians" say, either not realizing this, or in truth not being Christians.
But this one is also a Ten Commandments item. Christians historically have by definition a compatible with Christ interpretation. Even the post-Vatican II Catholic church I was brought up in.
@ThatWouldBeTelling @Wpedantic @fluffy yeah this, the issue is christians who think they and religious jews agree--they do not
Jews would happily kill Jesus again if given the chance.
@j @ThatWouldBeTelling @Wpedantic @fluffy snopes defended this btw "she's just a comedian making a joke you can't say she believes it"
@sun @fluffy @j @Wpedantic @ThatWouldBeTelling tbh as a joke i get it. but there are certain jokes not made for public. just like mohammed caricatures. im an atheist and i think both are dumb jokes. bc the only punchline is it hurts people in their belief. there is no other gag. no meta level. no punching up against those in power. it aint thought provoking. if she would add an actual reason it would be more interesting. "bc he spent all his time with tax collectors and whores" would make this satire (and be biblically atleast partially accurate)
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@grillchen @fluffy @j @Wpedantic @ThatWouldBeTelling you can make a joke about anything and there are jokes you tell that are appropriate for certain audiences that get cellphone videoed and shown to the wrong audience and people freak out, it's not a problem with the comedian.