@hfaust reminder that the USA said to everyone that this would happen, as soon as you needed them again you would just bring them back
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I bet you as soon as actual sovereignty is on the line, they're gonna bring back chemical weapons just as if nothing ever happened.
> The Only Sin Is Not To Win...
> The Only Sin Is Not To Win...
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To give MD credit where credit is due, humans spend an *exorbitant* amount of time worrying about things that have never happened before, so the Nothing Ever Happens card is not wholly unjustified.
There's a real difference here that for the first time ever, the world empire is collapsing and that empire has been in power since the advent of the nuclear weapon - so we are seeing SOME things we've never seen before.
Will it get to uranium fireworks? That's still a big question. Arguments can be made either way.
There's a real difference here that for the first time ever, the world empire is collapsing and that empire has been in power since the advent of the nuclear weapon - so we are seeing SOME things we've never seen before.
Will it get to uranium fireworks? That's still a big question. Arguments can be made either way.
There's actually a really good reason to think no one will ever actually pull the Nuclear Armageddon trigger, and that's because whoever starts it will be blamed for it.
And when all of the atoms are split, and all of the dust settles, humanity will not go extinct - but the people who initiated the thing, and their family members, and the people they love the most..... You know the brazen bull?...
And when all of the atoms are split, and all of the dust settles, humanity will not go extinct - but the people who initiated the thing, and their family members, and the people they love the most..... You know the brazen bull?...
You are assuming rationality, and that the initiator actually has a family.
The prototypical contemporary Western leader only has self-pity, a cat and an investment portfolio.
The prototypical contemporary Western leader only has self-pity, a cat and an investment portfolio.
Sure sure, but you're assuming people are reasonable about the assignment of blame. In reality there's always gonna be *someone* to hunt down and exterminate. An ethnic group for instance.
That prospect might stop Putin, or even Xi.
It wouldn't stop Macron or Netanyahu.
It wouldn't stop Macron or Netanyahu.
Well, Netanyahu may yet strike Iran with a nuclear weapon, it would probably help him in the up-coming election.
But to CHIMP OUT and do Sampson Option on every capital in the world? No.
No because in a total civilizational breakdown scenario started from Israel, the reaction would be to shoot the Jews to extinction.
But to CHIMP OUT and do Sampson Option on every capital in the world? No.
No because in a total civilizational breakdown scenario started from Israel, the reaction would be to shoot the Jews to extinction.
Netanyahu would do that without flinching or regrets if it was the only way to delay his corruption trial.
Remember, he has a son in the US...
I believe he was evacced as part of a fake scare?
Evacuated to where?
Remember, once you run out of atoms, unless you're on MARS, you cannot escape consequences...
Remember, once you run out of atoms, unless you're on MARS, you cannot escape consequences...
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We're not sure.
Netanyahu's been evading consequences like Neo in the Matrix, ever since he was a young Kahanist.
I expect he believes he can do it indefinitely, and if he ever has doubts a line of blow will silence them.
Rampant cocaine use among Western leaders is more destabilising of MAD than any shield could be.
Netanyahu's been evading consequences like Neo in the Matrix, ever since he was a young Kahanist.
I expect he believes he can do it indefinitely, and if he ever has doubts a line of blow will silence them.
Rampant cocaine use among Western leaders is more destabilising of MAD than any shield could be.
Even if Netanyahu wanted to do a real chimp-out move and nuke every city in the world, #1 he doesn't have enough weapons, and #2 what city isn't already filled with Jews.
I do think he's *quite* likely to be the one that initiates nuclear conflict against Iran, but this is "one bomb" not Sampson Option.
That of course will backfire spectacularly, but it will make him seem strong in Israel and save him the election...
I do think he's *quite* likely to be the one that initiates nuclear conflict against Iran, but this is "one bomb" not Sampson Option.
That of course will backfire spectacularly, but it will make him seem strong in Israel and save him the election...
I think you are quite right in terms of what is going to happen under present circumstances.
But it isn't hard to imagine scenarios in which Netanyahu feels Europe (and its Jews) have failed him and need to go down so he can save himself.
October 7th and Hannibal Doctrine reveal Netanyahu's *actual* preferences regarding *precious Jewish blood*
But it isn't hard to imagine scenarios in which Netanyahu feels Europe (and its Jews) have failed him and need to go down so he can save himself.
October 7th and Hannibal Doctrine reveal Netanyahu's *actual* preferences regarding *precious Jewish blood*
That's the problem with nuclear weapons and war crimes, you can't cover them up. Once you do it, the whole world can see you did it.
And the world is shocked (the plebs), and the world leaders have their opportunity to settle old scores whilst representing themselves as the saviors of humanity.
Nuking Europe is a suicide mission for Israel. Nuking Iran is probably also suicide, just somewhat less obvious.
And the world is shocked (the plebs), and the world leaders have their opportunity to settle old scores whilst representing themselves as the saviors of humanity.
Nuking Europe is a suicide mission for Israel. Nuking Iran is probably also suicide, just somewhat less obvious.
You have to factor in that jews, and particularly the powerful jews in Israel, are somewhat insane and do things contrary to their long-term interest. They could have been friends with everyone in that region. They're insane and choose mass murder and abuse, when they could choose peace.
It's definitely not good for their long term interests, but it's not as insane as it looks.
Israel's problem is that their own social cohesion is falling apart. There are 3 or 4 factions in Israel and the situation is threatening to devolve into a civil war.
So Netanyahu is basically doing the old "start a war to distract from problems at home" gambit. It's bad for foreign relations, but it's being done against a backdrop of "we might not have a country much longer"... Kind of "go big or go broke" move.
Israel's problem is that their own social cohesion is falling apart. There are 3 or 4 factions in Israel and the situation is threatening to devolve into a civil war.
So Netanyahu is basically doing the old "start a war to distract from problems at home" gambit. It's bad for foreign relations, but it's being done against a backdrop of "we might not have a country much longer"... Kind of "go big or go broke" move.
So Netanyahu going nuclear against Iran is not at all unrealistic. Most likely after the US election and before the Israeli election.
If he strikes pickaxe mountain, it has no impact. It's a firework.
If he strikes Tehran, he kills millions of people, and it would probably be pretty popular in Israel. But it will also probably unite the entire Muslim world...
All of the (US puppet) oil kingdoms who were wishy-washy about doing business with Israel are ripe to be overthrown.
If Jordan became aligned with Iran, this would be a nightmare for Israel because it's right on their border.
If he strikes pickaxe mountain, it has no impact. It's a firework.
If he strikes Tehran, he kills millions of people, and it would probably be pretty popular in Israel. But it will also probably unite the entire Muslim world...
All of the (US puppet) oil kingdoms who were wishy-washy about doing business with Israel are ripe to be overthrown.
If Jordan became aligned with Iran, this would be a nightmare for Israel because it's right on their border.
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