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@anemone @jaff I updated the post with a little more information explaining my thoughs on it

@sun@shitposter.world @jaff@mk.magicka.org I see. still. I have to admit I am getting a bit tired of this limitation when ATProto and nostr both already have this solved

@anemone @jaff mixed up threads?

@sun@shitposter.world @jaff@mk.magicka.org current account migration on AP is pretty limited, you basically just notify your followers that you moved and their instance may or may not autofollow. You don't bring your post history and it's a completely new account so you still lose your old identity

@anemone @jaff I was referring to what Mitra is doing where basically you can multihome your account and one gets deleted you just use the other one. couple problems though:

1. still hacky compared to nostr and bluesky
2. mastodon does not and will not support it.

@sun@shitposter.world @anemone@ebiverse.social the thing about apub is that if mastodon is not compatible with the feature you dont exist, isnt monoculture so great?

@jaff @anemone my favorite part is everybody just kisses that guy's ass and won't say that he's keeping it that way for completely selfish reasons

@sun@shitposter.world @anemone@ebiverse.social honestly i dont give a shit about what mastodon thinks as i have 0% good interactions from the rainbow mafia

it always was and always will be a huge cancerous growth on fedi

@jaff@mk.magicka.org @sun@shitposter.world technically true but i dont actually talk to many people on mastodon anymore lol

@sun @anemone @jaff I thought this was impossible because it leads to a credential vulnerability

@rees @anemone @jaff it uses signed objects from a key instead of locking it to a domain key

@sun @anemone @jaff yes, that's the issue iirc last time I tried to implement that. fediverse is designed around assumptions of keys being tied to domains, so when you uncouple them it breaks instance security

@rees@pleroma.ree.social @anemone@ebiverse.social @sun@shitposter.world why not multisig tho?

@jaff @anemone @sun I don't know, I implemented this exact thing like 3-4 years ago and abandoned it because it was such a bad idea, I don't remember the specifics

@rees@pleroma.ree.social @anemone@ebiverse.social @sun@shitposter.world i guess whence cometh the identity at that point

@sun @anemone @jaff @rees I mean in a lot of ways moving accounts with posts is something most people don't really care about, so it is very down the priority list. I've seen only e-celebs complain about it so far. You technically can also import all your posts from a backup on another server, but then all the object links that other instances have to the old posts are invalid anyway.

The Mitra implementation uses DIDs instead of domains I think, anyways paging @silverpill :)

@phnt @anemone @silverpill @jaff @rees it works its just obviously bolt-on until every server just natively supports keys

@sun @anemone @silverpill @jaff @rees
>it works its just obviously bolt-on until every server just natively supports keys

Yeah, never happening.

@phnt @anemone @silverpill @jaff @rees arguably that is also why nostr is never happening

@sun @anemone @silverpill @jaff @rees I mean there still are fedi servers that don't understand the concept of editing ones post without a delete & redraft. Almost every extension on this network is never going to achieve near complete adoption.

@phnt@fluffytail.org @anemone@ebiverse.social @sun@shitposter.world @silverpill@mitra.social @rees@pleroma.ree.social what if we had a "minimum protocol compliance specification" that includes things users actually ask for not things eugen feels like adding

@jaff @anemone @sun @silverpill @rees I think that is what silverpill is essentially working on with ap-next.

@phnt @anemone @silverpill @jaff @sun creating new specs/protocols is pointless if it doesn't enable anything new

@rees @anemone @phnt @silverpill @jaff I don't think there's anything worth keeping with ap except the broad swath of structured semantic posts, which bluesky does better

@rees @anemone @silverpill @jaff @sun It aims to be backwards compatible, so that isn't really an issue. You don't need to make a new protocol, in fact it is pointless due to the size and adoption now. What you need is a new coherent spec that describes reality and not some la-la-land interpretation that never existed and doesn't even work.

@phnt @anemone @silverpill @jaff @sun https://git.ree.social/ree-network/ree

@rees @anemone @silverpill @jaff @sun
>anoobis
Not even bothering to look at that.

@rees @anemone @phnt @silverpill @jaff bookmarked.

@jaff @phnt @anemone @sun @silverpill @rees I still want an automated cum button

@phnt @anemone @silverpill @jaff @rees moxie was right about federation

@sun @anemone @phnt @jaff @rees Most people I care about use either Pleroma or Mitra. So I would consider it a win if Pleroma gained support for (remote) key-based identities.

@sun@shitposter.world @jaff@mk.magicka.org ah okay. i havent looked at mitra in a bit

@anemone @sun @jaff Credit where it's due, trying to do this to the government IS funny as hell.

@nerthos @anemone @jaff fwiw him decimating the twitter staff seems like it was the right move, but it doesn't map to government

@sun@shitposter.world @nerthos@shitposter.world @anemone@ebiverse.social they need to make the public sector less faggy and gay and have it repell communists by its very nature somehow. maybe just require you believe in jesus or stuff idk

@jaff @nerthos @anemone different issue

@jaff@mk.magicka.org @sun@shitposter.world @nerthos@shitposter.world they already successfully did that like 40 years ago

@sun @anemone @jaff They didn't have the balls to put enough zoomers with unlimited authority in it.

@nerthos@shitposter.world @anemone@ebiverse.social @sun@shitposter.world that would unironically fix everything because they'd start doing state mandated purge of the permagov into hard labor camps where they make iphones until they die from old age