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Fed-jacketed by Mr. controlled opposition?
hmmmmmm.
hmmmmmm.
@Zardoz
This is expected behavior. The greatest threat to capitalists is nationalism. Under nationalism, capital serves the nation. Under capitalism, the nation serves capital.
@Bernard @Zardoz This is probably correct, or at least I feel it is. Problem is the line is harder to draw, and therefore harder to explain to people. Laissez-faire capitalism is minimal government interference in business (do what you want). Communism is no more private property, government runs all the businesses (the state takes care of everything).
Those are easy to explain to someone. There doesn't seem to be a bright and simple line to what we're imagining. You and I can look at a business practice and say "this is wrong, this harms the larger society", mostly because it's a gut reaction. But it isn't always easy to slot it into a neat, simple category. The explanation takes too long. The story has to be simple when selling something to people. We need a simpler way of explaining it, catchy sales pitch. A way to point at something and say, "This is an example of how it should (or shouldn't) be done under this system because X."
Those are easy to explain to someone. There doesn't seem to be a bright and simple line to what we're imagining. You and I can look at a business practice and say "this is wrong, this harms the larger society", mostly because it's a gut reaction. But it isn't always easy to slot it into a neat, simple category. The explanation takes too long. The story has to be simple when selling something to people. We need a simpler way of explaining it, catchy sales pitch. A way to point at something and say, "This is an example of how it should (or shouldn't) be done under this system because X."
@Charles_in_Charge @Bernard @Zardoz Norwegian society for example have almost no difference from left, far left, right, far right. The country already got a general direction about how to run country. Save most of oil benefits for future, generous social net universally accepted by population, social contract of people understood by everyone. Generous welfare state, almost no corruption, no acceptance of deviation from norms regarding corruption. Government responds to people in policies, so small population, they answer to population, mostly ingrained shame reflex. Work security jobs secured by unions years ago by protests. Whole welfare state and country coming from people themselves by asserting popular will
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