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@yockeypuck None of these guys are heroes, the reason people talk about them is that they are martyrs. Like the airplane guy was driven to depression despite clearly being competent enough to fly a plane even though he'd never flown one before.
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@Elliptica @yockeypuck Guy didn't talk about Hitler, Napoleon, (this one's going to make people mad but I don't care) Richard Nixon, Julius Caesar, Queen Victoria, Frederick the Great, Alexander, Caesar...
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